On the nature of things in PES and FIFA and appreciation for Konami
Ok so just hear me out before crucifying me. I think that what Konami is doing is fine, no problem with it. I am f2p and have had rotten luck as well. But this game is still heavily f2p oriented. You can easily get a very good team without paying and not even grinding that much. So for comparison let’s take FIFA Mobile and Console. First with mobile as this is about mobile. That game is extremely P2W oriented. If you splash cash in the game then you can get the best team AND that gives you the edge in VS Attack mode. You have to grind for two weeks continuously and for about 15-20 times play the same old mini event to gain tokens.
After TWO WEEKS of grinding you can get ONE, YES ONLY ONE good player may not even be 95+ rated. I remember that I grinded for THREE weeks to get ONE carniball Inaki Williams who was 94 rated. Then the icons. Oof where to start, the star pass icons are only for p2ws. It took me FIVE months to get ONE Cannavaro. The Icon SBC challenges are EXTREMELY COSTLY AS WELL. Either you only play The game for the full day or you pay, that’s the only way you can get good players and coins. Now for Console, that the thing is the epitome of shithousery from a gaming company. You can’t get ANYTHING without paying. The objectives players are extremely and I MEAN EXTREMELY hard to get tho they did good with Summer Heat.
The Pack Luck is MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE THAN Konami’s. Less than 1% chance of getting the intended featured in a 75K pack. Yes very VERY P2W oriented.Have you seen the amount of money they pull in from Ultimate team itself? Just from the micro transactions? $1.34 BILLION DOLLARS US DOLLARS. JUST FROM MICROTRANSACTIONS. And don’t get me started about the scripting EVEN WORSE THAN KONAMI. Their game is bugged and glitched. They don’t even work on any other mode other than Ultimate team and even that is trash. In comparison, Konami gives you Packs for MUCH MUCH CHEAPER. They give you a chance to get good players every week. GUARANTEED. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO FACE A SWEAT FEAST LIKE IN WEEKEND LEAGUE.
Konami has to gain income from somewhere right if they have to keep pace with EA and improve their game? So in my Opinion these packs are actually justified and are not as bad as FIFA’s. Then again I am an F2P so can’t say much about spending money on the game. All P2Ws here if you can tell me about this, then it is much appreciated.
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A Few Words on PES Logic and Interceptionception. (A pretty long review)
PES LOGIC. This game becomes a real pain in the anus as days pass. I've been a silent reader but it's enough now. As an experienced player having been playing this since 2017, my first post is going to be a bit harsh. Sorry in advance. I'm going to talk about the irrational and ridiculous stuff of this game which sometimes makes me feel this game is made by bunch of talented developers who have no clue about what football is.
Increasing familiarity or team spirit is really a pain in the əss in this game. It just doesn't let you play with anyone you want with a freedom, whenever you wish, either managers or players. I sometimes just want to start a player only for a couple of games, sometimes only to see what he's like, but wait, what; I should first boost his familiarity to around 90% to get an overall impression! The worse thing is that I should play around 15-25 (sometimes even more) matches with them (new players or players you haven't used yet but keep in your team) to get them a familiarity of %100! Man that's nothing more than a torture, considering most of us have 450+ players and many managers. We have lives to survive too, most of us are students or workers, we have schools to go, jobs to work... We cannot waste most of our time to improve a fcking farmers league player's familiarity to play a fcking couple of games with him only to have FUN for a couple of minutes.......
2- Preset Teams
What's the matter with PRESET teams? Why all the preset teams are low spirited since previous games and why the hell we have to play with retarded players who cannot even side pass a ball properly? Can anyone give me a f*king single rational reason for it? Is it really that hard to update and edit it? I cannot even imagine how could a person mind doing such a thing that makes no sense and ruins the fun. So there was really a dialogue between developers of Konami, such as; "-Boss I have a new idea, let's reduce the team spirits of preset teams" "+But why?" "-Idk, I thought suffering even when passing a simple side pass would make it more fun. Players would appreciate difficulty that they cannot do anything to improve." "+Sounds appealing to our company's understanding of logic son, you are promoted".
However, this kind of deficiency of reason doesn't surprise me anymore. Having been playing this game since 2017, I'm used to PES logic now. Guys, let's give it a thought for a while, this game is full of nonsense stuff. From the team spirit levels of preset teams to the irrelevant and unrealistic player ratings...
3-Unrealistic Player Ratings
I'm going to skip talking about featured players. I know no one would buy coins just to roll standart base player packs and Konami should make money too. Just going to ask a couple of questions. What makes a 92 rated Ihattaren (base player) better than, for instance; James Rodriguez, Mesut Özil, Gylfi Sigurdsson and more than maybe 50 players like them. What makes Rodrygo (base, 92 rated) better than Heung-Min Son? There are so many examples (cannot even count) like this. I understand they are wonderkids and must have high potentials, but man, isn't this just absurd? So developers of PES just cannot distinguish between potential and current ability?
How about gameplay? I sometimes feel like this is just a simulation of bunch of footballers who constantly bump into each-other. What do most of us expect from a football game? It's very simple, a considerably realistic game we can have fun in which we can dribble, pass comfortably and shot the fucking ball. Man just WTF? Why would you make it almost impossible to dribble in a f*king football game? This game removed dribbling, it also removed the joy of short passing and setting a game from midfield. (Can hear some of you saying dribbling is possible, yes it's but it makes no sense at all when you dribble past a player but bump into one another in milliseconds) Especially online matches are just like the last 1-2 minutes of a final game of a very important cup in real life. The ball is either in around your penalty area or the opponent's, it changes in a couple of seconds and it's constantly being intercepted by your opponent's or your players.
INTERCEPTIONCEPTION. You try to pass, he intercepts, he tries to attack, you intercept, your players keep bumping into each-other, goalkeepers run lightning fast to tackle. When it comes to tackling and defending, everyone is a fking Van Dijk or a Ramos in this fking game.... Your player wants the ball and makes a run, when you pass the ball with the perfect timing, he somehow suddenly decides helping the defence, start running backwards. :) You shot the damn ball and guess what, most of your shots hit either your own players or the opponent's. Your damn players just prefer watching the ball going to the opponent, which is in fact closer to them, instead moving to get it. Ufff lot's of things to write but you guys get what I mean I think, we all play the same game....
5- Unfair Matchmaking Algorithm
To sum up with brief examples, I enjoy playing with my silver and golden players more, usually having a squad strength around 2800 - 3000, the f*king system matches me with guys that are 4500 and full of IM cards....(ironically, most of whose only gameplan is longballing to Inzaghi or Mbappe upfront :) (most of whom also celebrate every single goal they score like they've won the CL in the last minute)
A little note to all people who are going to say "then fck off and delete the game" or "your being a fcking noob is not the mistake of the game". I wish I could. I'm angry because this game has a potential, or it actually did. I mean what we all complain about are the things which could in fact be fixed by a couple of updates. However, I think developers never care what their community think about their games, that's why they do not care to release an update to fix. As I said I've been playing this game since 2017, yes, I'm not too good but not too bad either. My rating is still around 1300s. I can clearly say the fun decreases as years pass. I believe this game can be much better if people can express their thoughts about the game louder.
We all know Pes is not a rival to FIFA anymore since 2013 in console and there is almost no competition at all now. (Which I don't like because FIFA is being a monopoly and it doesn't improve itself when there's no competition.) But fcking FIFA sucks in mobile since the shit called FIFA Mobile started in 2017 (the thing made me switch to PES in mobile). It's even worse than PES. I'm a fking stupid football fan and the only football (or soccer as Konami refers) game I can play in my mobile device is this. Fck both Knami and EA, I wish 2K Games would release a football game, then no one would ever give a sh*t about these garbages we call football games.
I'm sorry guys, for being rude to your beloved game and maybe ruining the format, please tolerate my mistakes. After playing this game for a long period of time, I just wanted to express my feelings and that made me feel good. And sorry for the lack of coherence of the text, I was just going to complain about the familiarity issue but then kept going, couldn't stop myself anymore.
I gotta go now and play an online match, watch my players act like retards, make a run, ask for a pass but suddenly start running backwards when I pass it, watch my center-backs like they watch the opponent strikers, dominate the game somehow but concede long ball goals all day long and watch new celebrations.
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