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[FE4 Character Discussion] Examining the Crusaders #38 - Patty, Reluctant Thief (& Daisy)

Welcome to Examining the Crusaders, the series where we look at all of the playable characters of Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War. Last time we looked at Shannan, Wielder of Astra who poured his heart out for Seliph to try to pay back his debts to Sigurd and Deirdre. Today we will look at Patty, Reluctant Thief.
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Patty is a thief who joins at the beginning of Chapter 7 alongside Shannan. She is the younger sister of Faval and the daughter of Brigid; through Brigid, she carries minor Ulir blood by default. Patty when she first joins was raiding the Aed Shrine of treasures.
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Chapter 7 introduction: Patty leaves the Aed Shrine, remarking to herself that the rumors she heard were not false: the shrine was in fact filled with treasure which she hasn’t been able to get in a long time. She then says that she has to get out quickly. Shannan then leaves the shrine and catches up to Patty; he tells her to hand the sword she has to him. He says that she can keep everything else but he needs the sword. Patty refuses to do so as it was tough for her to get the sword and goads Shannan to try to catch her to get the sword back; Shannan yells at Patty to wait.
We see Patty for the first time as she teases Shannan when he just wants to get back his sword. This is comic relief, and it reappears for much of Patty’s conversations - this image of her as a playful thief who causes mischief, somewhat like Dew.
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Chapter 7 conversation with Shannan: Patty tells Shannan to get his hands off of her; Shannan says that he doesn’t want to hurt her and just for her to give him back the sword. Patty asks if the sword is his; Shannan explains that it is Balmung, the ancestral sword of his family, and that he is the only person who can wield it. Patty asks how the Balmung ended up in Aed; Shannan answers that it was last wielded by his father who died in the Grannvale-Isaach war and that it must have been stolen off of him after his death. Shannan learned only recently about Balmung’s location and came to Aed to retrieve it. Patty after this realizes that she is speaking to Shannan and asks to confirm his identity; when he does, Patty is awestruck at how incredible he is. She tells him that she has heard stories of his heroism and has been a fan of him for a long time; speaking to him fulfills her dreams. Shannan, unimpressed, asks for her to just give Balmung to him. Patty proceeds to do so, and Shannan is filled with the power of the Balmung.
For Patty this conversation can be divided more or less into two halves. The first half is when Shannan gets the situation with Balmung cleared up; Patty in spite of teasing Shannan earlier is amenable to giving it back to him when she finds out that the Balmung is his prized ancestral sword. This shows that Patty is still committed to “do the right thing” even if she is in fact a thief of some kind. (More on this facet of her character later.) Afterwards, we see Patty start to fangirl over Shannan although this does not humor the latter. It may seem comical as well but it is not surprising for a girl who grew up poor to dream of meeting an exotic prince like Shannan...so it brings joy to Patty for her dream to be realized.
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Chapter 7 conversation with Seliph: Patty recognizes Seliph and squeals; Seliph asks her politely who she is. Patty introduces herself as the “one true love of Shannan,” a claim which Seliph immediately doubts. Patty then admits that she is actually a (former) thief who now wants to join Seliph’s army instead. Seliph asks if she is sure about joining them because of how dangerous it is and how there is no place for “her ilk” (thieves) there. In response, Patty tells Seliph that he needs money because it is important and says that he will never have money issues with her around; Seliph denies this offer because he does not want to have stolen money. After a pause, Patty says that all of the money that the imperial soldiers have was stolen from a villager; she scolds him for saying that it is wrong for people to steal that money back and breaking down says that she just wants to help everyone. Seliph apologizes and offers to allow Patty to come with them to Patty’s surprise. She vigorously thanks him for the offer and gives Seliph a brave sword as a present, a sword which Seliph calls “lovely.”
Patty again fangirls over Seliph at first, probably for a similar reason as with Shannan. The deeper part of this conversation is the discourse over Patty’s stealing. Seliph looks down on Patty at first for stealing, and this reflects how most people in Jugdral see stealing - as something reserved for the lowest of the lowest. Patty is offended at this (innocent, but still hurtful) insinuation by Seliph and has to explain to him why she steals: she doesn’t steal just to have fun, but as a sort of Robin Hood who steals to give back to the people. To rephrase, Patty is more like a “chaotic good” type of person; her actions may not be “honorable” but they are still good at heart. She breaks down towards the end of her explanation, hinting that she has probably faced this kind of hurtful response to her before. But then she gets to experience joy when Seliph reverses course and allows her to join to help his cause, and she rewards Seliph with the brave sword which she probably stole - ironic that a “stolen good” has use for Seliph after all.
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Chapter 8 conversation with Faval: Patty asks Faval what he is doing before realizing that he was hired by Blume as a mercenary; Faval in turn asks Patty why she is with the rebels. Patty explains that she wants to protect people. She says that knows that they (the liberation army) is close to stopping Blume and rebukes Faval for throwing everything to the side to work for the very same people who orphaned the children that they care for now. Faval, sympathizing with Patty, apologizes to Patty, but Patty refuses to accept it as anyone can apologize and goes further to ask him to join them. Faval agrees to join Patty and Seliph’s army, complimenting Patty on coming a long way; Patty says that she guess she has come a long way.
Patty justifiably gets angry at Faval for allying with the same people whom she is fighting against; she has to knock some sense into him to get him to fight with Seliph’s army instead. Patty and Faval have a sort of “typical” sibling relationship as they are willing to get a little bit heated when they feel that the other one is doing something wrong, although Patty oftentimes will end up talking over Faval as we see in the next conversation. Patty and Faval’s past is also shined upon as we see that they are orphans who, like many others, had their lives destroyed by the Empire.
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Chapter 9 conversation with Faval: Faval yells at Patty and asks her in a scolding tone if she is stealing again; she admits that she has been stealing “just a bit.” Faval says that he doesn’t want her to steal at all even if it’s from the enemy and tells her to stop it. Patty then snaps back at Faval and explains that she is stealing because the army needs money, not because she has fun doing it. Faval responds by bringing up that people have been insulting Patty behind her back; one person in particular said that Patty was behaving just as expected of a “pirate’s back,” a comment which Faval punched that person over. Patty answers that it doesn’t matter what people think; their mother (Brigid) was still a great person who was an heir of Ulir. She brings up that she had cried in joy when she found this fact out from Lewyn. Faval concurs and notes that given that they grew up as poor orphans, he had no idea that their mother was a noblewoman; he asks Patty if she remembers anything about her. Patty says she remembers nothing about their mother and asks Faval if he does, to which he replies that he remembers her being kind and beautiful. Patty then asks Faval if he thinks their mother is dead; Faval answers that while he does not know for sure, they will go look not only for their mother but for their father as well.
Faval gets a bit angry at Patty for continuing to steal because he (like others) feels like it is leaving a negative impression on them. Patty is once again forced to explain that her stealing unfortunately is a necessity at this point; they would be struggling for money and for food if it weren’t for her efforts. It’s ultimately unfair and unjust that this reputation of being not only being a “scum thief” but a “scum thief who is the product of a scum pirate” follows Patty around, and it’s yet another tragedy of the circumstances of the game. But on the upside, Patty still has the fact that she is nobility behind her to her surprise.
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Chapter 9 conversation with Coirpre/Charlot: Patty recognizes Coirpre and sneers at him because the child of Hannibal whom she thought would be “amazingly hot” turned out to be a “snotty kid.” Coirpre retorts that she is not any better herself. Patty irately asks Coirpre if he is trying to say that she looks like a child, to which he replies that this is what he means because she really does look like a child. Patty angrily calls Coirpre a jerk.
We revert back to comic relief as Patty and Coirpre trade insults. Patty calls Coirpre a “snotty kid” and Coirpre tells Patty to her face that she also looks like a child. This of course makes Patty angry because she wants to think she is an adult even though she has already fangirled over two separate princes.
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Chapter 10 conversation with LesteDeimne: Lester comes up to Patty and teases her by saying sarcastically that she “looks good as ever;” Patty, annoyed, tells him to go away. Lester is frustrated at this and calls Patty harsh, but Patty fires back that he always teases her in dumb ways. Lester is confused by this but Patty points out that Lester doesn’t act this way towards any other girl; this is followed by Lester jokingly acting like he’s shocked that Patty is a girl, which makes Patty even angrier. After this, Lester apologizes and says that he cares about Patty but got a little bit too far. Patty, still angry, asks Lester what he means, and Lester responds that he “likes” Patty.
It can be inferred that Lester has teased Patty many times before by this point; this time, Patty’s temper is irritated once again as she snaps at him. Of course, it turns out that this is some form of affection from Lester, which is weird because Lester and Patty are cousins. The biggest takeaway from this conversation is that Patty has a short temper, again.
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Endgame conversation with Shannan: Patty calls out to Shannan to the latter’s confusion. She says that it’s lunchtime and presents lunch that she made to him; Shannan, still confused, asks her what she is doing as they are at a battle, not a picnic. Patty complains that she has nothing else to do given that nothing there needs her “light touch.” Shannan brusquely asks her why she thought getting in the way was a good idea. This offends Patty as she rebukes him for treating her like an “old bag” when she spent all day making him lunch; she says that she will not do that again. Shannan apologizes to Patty and asks for her forgiveness. This makes Patty happy now as she is relieved that Shannan will eat her lunch anyways; she says that she loves Shannan a lot now.
Shannan was initially annoyed by Patty and it shows, but Patty snaps at him for not being grateful for her effort to make him lunch instead of sitting around bored. She shows her short temper yet again, and rightfully so considering how much effort Patty put into making Shannan lunch. Then she becomes happy when Shannan apologizes and chooses to eat her lunch anyways.
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Endgame conversation with LesteDeimne: Patty sees Lester and gives him lunch to Lester’s joy as Lester is very hungry. Patty said that she felt this may be the case and packed him multiple servings; she then asks Lester how much he likes it. Lester compliments Patty on her “fantastic” cooking and calls her the best cook he has ever met. Patty giggles and says that she bets she is the best cook he has ever met.
Patty and Lester have resolved their differences and now they just...enjoy lunch together. In a funny scene. Patty seems to have a good intuition given that she knew that Lester would want multiple servings.
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Endgame conversation with Seliph: Patty gives lunch to Seliph, to the latter’s surprise. Seliph thanks Patty for doing this. Patty then gives Seliph a drink to Seliph’s delight as he says that Patty “spoils” him. She then has one more thing for him, which is her “Super Special Home-Brewed Stamina Tonic” which will give Seliph energy; she warns him not to spill any of it.
Seliph seems to have gotten over how he initially felt about Patty given that Patty is willing to literally make him lunch now. Well, not just lunch but a stamina tonic too...maybe Seliph’s fatigue is high and he needs one? If so, Patty once again has a good intuition of what her lover needs.
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Ending: If Patty does not inherit the throne of Yngvi and does not inherit from her father, she will return to Yngvi. She tells Seliph this because she wants to help her brother instead of twiddling her thumbs. Seliph warns Patty not to steal as it does not befit a noble; Patty gets angry at Seliph for saying this because she gave up stealing. Seliph apologizes and tells Patty to take care. If Patty does inherit Yngvi (which happens if Faval goes to another country like Verdane or if he is dead), Seliph will ask her if she will be okay there. Patty in response asks Seliph if he is nervous about her going to Yngvi. He tries to say that he doesn’t mean that, but Patty cuts him off and says that she will be fine as she is the daughter of Brigid. Finally, if Patty had a lover who is dead, she will cry when she says goodbye to Seliph; she even asks Seliph to hold her towards the end.
Three separate scenes that all show different facets of Patty. The first scene of course is just Patty being her regular self, getting frustrated for having her stealing brought up again (and justifiably so). In the second scene, Patty shows that she is determined to do what needs to be done for her people, just like she has in the past. And finally in the third scene...we see Patty at her most “broken” so to speak, after her lover has died. It’s an emotional scene.
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Daisy: Daisy is a thief raised in the Connaught orphanage; she is the younger sister of Asaello. Daisy has three unique conversations: a secret event with Shannan in Chapter 7, a unique conversation with Asaello in Chapter 9 that replaces Patty’s conversation with Faval, and a unique conversation with Deimne in the Endgame chapter.
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Chapter 7 secret event with Shannan: Someone says hello to Shannan, startling him. That someone turns out to be Daisy who laughs about scaring Shannan. Shannan yells at Daisy because he almost hurt her and asks her to cut it out; Daisy retorts that she is just bored and isn’t strong enough to fight. Shannan reluctantly says that he will help her with that although he does not have the time to give her a full lesson; Daisy squeals that she is getting a private lesson with Shannan. Shannan then warns Daisy that she needs to take it seriously or else he will not give a lesson; Daisy affirms that she will be serious. Shannan after that begins the lesson by talking about posture but realizes that Daisy isn’t listening. At that point Daisy just sighs.
There isn’t much unique happening here that doesn’t happen for Patty. Daisy jumps in front of Shannan (somewhat) because she is bored and sort of “fangirls” over him just as she did in Chapter 7. (If you recall, this is understandable due to her poor upbringing.) She gets to have a private swordsplay lesson with Shannan, which is possibly a lampshade of Daisy having bad combat.
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Chapter 9 conversation with Asaello: Asaello yells at Daisy and asks her in a scolding tone if she is stealing again; she admits that she has been stealing “just a bit.” Asaello says that he doesn’t want her to steal at all even if it’s from the enemy and tells her to stop it. Daisy then snaps back at Asaello and explains that she is stealing because the army needs money, not because she has fun doing it; the children at Connaught also need money that she can’t get through other means. Asaello reluctantly admits that Daisy has a point and says that he hopes they’re doing fine. Daisy further scolds Asaello and reminds him that he has to put his arena money to good use; Asaello sighs as he remarks that he knew that this would come back.
Here we see the conversation start off similarly to Patty’s conversation with Faval but it takes a slightly different turn; Daisy has to remind Asaello about the orphanage that they are taking care of and the children in that orphanage. Like with Patty, Daisy isn’t stealing just for the fun of it; she’s stealing to take care of the disadvantaged, including the orphans which she raises along with her brother. Speaking of...she has to knock some sense into Asaello to remind him to use his arena money for good rather than for his own wants, showing tough love for him.
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Endgame conversation with Deimne: Daisy asks Deimne what’s up; Deimne replies that he’s feeling worthless. Daisy inquires further and asks why, to which Deimne explains that the “normal people” like them might as well not be there. Daisy disappointedly says that they (Seliph and the other nobles) don’t really need them. Deimne concurs and says that he will find a real job in Isaach; Daisy adds that she will be with him after the tiring war. Deimne then exclaims that they’re hopeless.
As noted in the Deimne episode, this conversation lampshades the substitutes’ poor fighting capabilities. Daisy is understandably disappointed that Seliph and the other holy blooded nobles have left them behind, and it makes the player feel empathy for her and Deimne. Daisy then agrees to follow Deimne to Isaach to “get a new job,” which shows that she is committed to him...and a bit strange considering how she tried to whip Asaello into supporting the Connaught orphanage earlier.
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Ending: By default, Daisy will return to New Thracia to help her brother with Connaught. Otherwise, her ending is identical to that of Patty.
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Final thoughts: Patty at first appears to be a mischievous thief much like (her possible father) Dew. She steals things, she teases people, she has a short temper, and she even gawks over exotic princes like Seliph and Shannan. But there is a darker side to this, and that would be what led her to stealing: her poor upbringing in the orphanage to Connaught. She has to repeatedly stress to other people that she does not like stealing, but is forced to do it in order to provide for other people, whether that is the orphans at Connaught or the people in Seliph’s own army. In spite of that, people still look down on her not only because she is a thief but because her mother was a pirate as well; because of that, Patty suffers. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel, that being her previously unknown heritage as a noble of Yngvi. For this and for the good of everyone else, Patty perseveres and stays strong.
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Thanks for reading this episode! Next time is going to be very exciting because we will finally head to the Leonster trio: three (four?) very well-loved characters who on top of that are among my personal favorite characters in the series. Up next will be the lord of Thracia 776, the legendary master knight Leif, Prince of Leonster. Until then!
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[FE4 Character Discussion] Examining the Crusaders #29.5 - Deimne, Aspiring Archer

Hello and welcome back to Examining the Crusaders, the series where we take a look at all of the playable characters in Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War. Yesterday we looked at Lester, Archer of the Liberation Army; today, we will go look at his substitute, Deimne, Aspiring Archer.
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Deimne is a commoner who is the older brother of Muirne. He has three unique conversations: one with Muirne which replaces Lester’s conversation with Lana, a secret event in Chapter 6, and an event with Daisy in the Endgame. In addition, he also has a unique ending.
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Chapter 6 conversation with Muirne: Deimne appears and is shocked that Muirne is fighting; she tells him that she could not bear to leave Seliph out on the battlefield alone. Deimne says to himself that he isn’t surprised, but Muirne hears this and asks what he means by that. Deimne after that tells Muirne not to get too “invested” in Seliph as he is a prince and thus common peasants like them normally shouldn’t be around him; he doesn’t want to see her feelings hurt. Muirne rebukes him for getting the wrong idea as she claims that all she wants to do is make sure Seliph survives the war. Deimne just says that he’s concerned for Muirne; Muirne thanks him for that.
On Deimne’s end of the conversation, we see that Deimne, like Lester, seems to be hesitant to let Muirne fight. However, Deimne takes a little bit of a different turn from Lester as he warns his younger sister not to pursue Seliph. He has the realistic take that any relationship between Muirne and Seliph wouldn’t last long because of the class difference between them; this contrasts against Muirne trying to be optimistic. Deimne carries this pessimistic tone in some of his later conversations; here though, it not only contrasts against Muirne but is where Deimne’s concern for Muirne is born out of.
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Chapter 6 secret event: Deimne enters Isaach castle. When he does, a village girl named Corinne recognizes Deimne and is happy to see him. Deimne notes that it has been a while since they have last seen each other. Corinne is happy to see that he’s in good shape given how long it has been since he and Muirne had bid farewell to the city. Deimne tells Corinne that he’s been trying to help Seliph’s rebellion even if he hasn’t done much; Corinne still reassures him that it’s amazing that he went from being a crybaby to helping out with the rebellion. Deimne laughs and asks her not to tell anyone else that he used to be a crybaby; he goes on to say that he still has some ways to go to become stronger and ensure that everyone (and Corinne) can live in peace. Corinne, trailing off, says that she hopes he can, and Deimne asks her if something is wrong. She passes it off as nothing and hands Deimne a necklace, a last memento from her (implied to be dead) mother, that will make him stronger. Deimne tries to refuse to take such a treasured item but Corinne insists that he should as her mother would have wanted it to be put to good use. Deimne thanks Corinne and promises to give it back to her after the end of the war; he then leaves and asks her to take care. After Deimne leaves, Corinne says his name trailing off.
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Like in the previous conversation, here Deimne feels a bit worthless. This conversation lampshades the fact that substitutes in-game do not contribute as much as the units with holy blood, and it has Deimne feeling down; he resolves to go find a “real job” in Isaach, presumably where they won’t be worthless solely because of their lack of holy blood.
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Ending: Deimne will return to Isaach and thanks Seliph for everything. Seliph gives his thanks to Deimne, and Deimne tells Seliph to take care of himself. More interestingly is Deimne’s lover conversations if he has one; he will invite his lover to come home to Isaach with him to her surprise. Deimne also has different dialogue if his sister Muirne died; Seliph will express regret for Muirne's death but Deimne will take the full blame for letting his sister die. This shows, again, Deimne's pessimism as he puts himself down for something which may not entirely be his fault.
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Final thoughts: Deimne adds a lot more flavor which Lester doesn’t have. The common theme of Deimne is that he’s pessimistic due to his lack of holy blood and status as a commoner. In his conversation with Muirne, we see that he tries to dissuade his sister from pursuing Seliph due to their status difference as he fears that the relationship won’t work. Later in his conversation with Corinne, Deimne belittles himself and says that he doesn’t really do anything for Seliph; he deems himself unworthy of the great honor that Corinne wants to put on him. And in his conversation with Daisy he is just straight up dejected at his inability to contribute that much compared to the nobles of the army like Seliph and Leif. He still tries his best though, and after all when he’s done he goes back to Isaach to help rebuild.
Thanks for reading this episode. Next one will be a bit longer as we look at the mustached man himself, Oifey, Veteran Paladin of Tragedy. Until then!
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