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There are plenty of threads full of ideas for the next BL game, but the ideas there are pretty much the same / similar. I wanted to share my ideas, a little bit different from the ones mentioned before, and would like to hear your opinions / feedback.
1. Brave New World
Since the 1st installment of the BL franchise, all events took place either on the planet Pandora or places surrouding it (Elpis, Helios space station). The main idea of this game series is hunting Eridian Vaults. Let's count the Vaults we know about:
  • Vault of the Destroyer from BL1
  • Vault of the Sentinel from TPS
  • Vault of the Warrior from BL2
  • Vault in the Badass Crater of Baddassitude from BL2
  • Vault of the Traveler from TFTB
That makes 5 Vaults located on a single planet and it's moon. Maybe Pandora was some kind of important for the Eridians, but for me more than 5 Vaults is not likely, given the map from BL2 ending. We know that there are other planets / systems with Vaults, so why not place future BL game on them?
In BL1, the Vault was a myth to the most people you've encountered. After the events of BL1 and TPS we know that Vaults are real. After the events of BL2, there could be some kind of Vault rush across the known galaxies (just like gold rush thingy on Wild West). People traveling across the Universe, looking not for mythical caches / armories anymore, but for real alien Vaults, and the power held within them.
2. Few Are Those
Another thing BL series is about are guns. Shooting guns, looting guns, grinding guns, etc. That's how most of people play this game. But there are some players who prefer the melee builds. For a melee centered character, you need melee oriented weaponry. Such items can be found in the game, but unfortunately, you can count them on your fingers. This leads to almost no variety when it comes to melee builds.
Let's take BL2 and the Assassin class as an example. In the base game, the most popular setup consisted of Evisceration Rubi (slag of course), paired with Hide of Terra or Love Thumper. The 2nd setup was the Law & Order combo. With 1st DLC we got a Rapier with +200% melee damage and soon it became "the" melee weapon to go. 2nd DLC gave us the Punchee shield and Might of the Seraphs relic, but no one really uses them. 4th DLC came with Grog Nozzle which took the place of Rubi. Count in the melee class mods (3 regular Ninja, Legendary Hunter, Legendary Ninja) and we've got about 14 items.
Compare that to the amount of other guns... or even to amount of most used pistols. More melee oriented weaponry with wide range of special effects would result in more variety and much less in terms of abusing existing gear combinations.
3. Final Masquerade
When it comes to character customizations, we don't have much options. In BL1 we could choose 3 colors from given palette, in BL2 and TPS we got multiple pre-made heads and skin customizations. I though of a system "the best from both worlds".
When visiting a New-U station, apart from the options to change character's name and skill points distribution (aka Respec), there would be these options:
  • Head - choose head model
  • Body - choose body model
You may ask what'd be the difference between this system and the current BL2 / TPS one? The answer: the Head and Body models would not contain predefined colours. That's where the BL1 part comes in play. The last option would be a Color Palette: let's say 4 colours which are applied to chosen Head and Body models in the right places with dynamic preview of the character. BL2 and TPS offer over hundreds of premade skins, but think of the amount of possible colour scheme combinations. That would allow the new Vault Hunters to look really unique.
The last element of that system would be a save / share mechanism. Just like you can create a Gibbed code for each item in the game (weapon, shield, etc.) with info about parts and stuff, there'd be a script that creates a code with all the appearance info. This code could be shared. Instead of posting "I'm using this head with that body model, the colours are: #....." you could post your code, e.g. "NK8N6D25". People would input this code in the New-U station and get exaclty the same looks as you. I hope it's clear for you.
4. New Divide
My next idea: few changes to the loot rarity system. I'd leave the rarities as they are now, but I'd add more guns. Yeah, you read that right. More guns in Borderlands.
When I ask you what's the legendary Maliwan SMG, all of you will answer "Hellfire", which is correct. The Hellfire is the only legendary SMG made by Maliwan through all the installments so far. But what about other types of weaponry? When it comes to pistols, we've got the Firehawk, the Defiller and the Thunderball Fists. All of them are great. But with only 1 legendary weapon in each weapon type set, the rest is gone. They may make appearance as weapons with other rarity, but does it make sense? Why would be the Hellfire always a legendary, while the rest has to fight for the place in the legendary family?
My solution to this issue would be changing the number of legendary items in each category from 1 to 2 and adding new legendary items. This would also have other effects on the game, such as more diversity in the gear selection. Another pros would be the fact of having an alternative to particular weapon. You don't like the Flakker? No problem, there's another legendary Torgue shotgun that casues mini nuklear explosions because reasons.
The only downside of this I can think of is the #Hunt. Imagine yourself farming twice as much legendary items... About farming - if you think that there wouldn't be enough enemies to attach the new legendaries to, let me tell you this: there are many unique enemies in BL2 that don't have a special loot drop assigned (e.g. Bad Maw, Prospector Zeke, Jimmy Jenkins, etc.). Assuming that the base game of the next installment of the BL series will have the size just like BL2 had, then there'd be no problem in distributing the new legendaries.
Now for the classes. What would be a BL game without character classes to choose from? While most people on the Internetz were inspired by other game titles and / or game genres, which resulted in concepts totally out of the BL universe, I was inspired by the BL universe itself. The results? Read below.
5. The Toy Master
Name: Rhys the Scavenger
I came with the character name and class name before the release of both TPS and TFTB, so don’t mix Rhys from TFTB with my concept. The same applies to Scavs from Elpis – I was inspired by BL1 loot scavengers.
Action Skill: Meet My Toy
Upon activation, Rhys puts away his currently equiped weapon and draws an unique gun build by himself. During Meet My Toy, Rhys can only use that particular weapon. He can’t swap to another weapon from different slot. The weapon is generated randomly in terms of parts and kind (rocket launchers available past lvl 10, always blue rarity). The stats on the weapon are above average and scale with character level.
Duration: 30 seconds.
Cooldown: 90 seconds.
Skill trees: Guncrafter, Junk Fan, Triggerman
Guncrafter tree provides various upgrades to Rhys’ unique weapon. Junk Fan provides bonuses to Rhys’ stats and low rarity guns. Triggerman provides bonuses to various gun types.
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The More, The Better – Guncrafter, 5 points skill
Unique gun upgrade - increases the magazine size of Rhys’ unique gun
+5% magazine size per point invested
Element Of Surprise – Guncrafter, 1 point skill
Unique gun upgrade – Rhys’ unique gun gets an elemental capacitor which adds bonus elemental damage and splash damage to shots fired. Can apply fire, shock, corrosion, cryo or explosive capacitor to it. The capacitor casues above average elemental damage. Only 1 elemental damage type available per action skill activation
Again And Again – Guncrafter, 1 point skill
During Meet My Toy, you can swap guns, causing the game to generate another unique gun and put it in your hands instead of currently used unique gun. Newly generated weapon gets all the available weapon upgrades. Only 2 activations available during action skill duration
Copyright Infringement – Guncrafter's capstone, 1 point skill
Unique gun upgrade – Rhys’ unique gun copies the special effect from a randomly chosen weapon of the same kind from your inventory. The effect applies for the whole action skill duration. Only 1 special effect copied per unique weapon.
It’s No Trash – Junk Fan, 5 points skill
Increases damage and reload speed for low rarity guns (white and green rarity).
+5% damage and reload speed per point invested
Can’t Have Enough – Junk Fan, 5 points skill
Increases your backpack capacity
+1 capacity per point invested
These Colours Suit Me – Junk Fan ,5 points skill
Every low rarity item (white and green rarity) gets upgrade to base stats depending on item’s kind
Shields: +4% recharge rate, -4% recharge delay per point invested
Grenade Mods: +4% damage, -4% fuse time per point invested
Trash Powered – Junk Fan's capstone, 1 point skill
Increases gun damage with each low rarity gun (white and green rarity) in your inventory. Decreases gun damage with each high rarity gun (blue rarity or above) in your inventory.
+10% gun damage per low rarity gun
-20% gun damage per high rarity gun
Strong Hands – Triggerman, 5 points skil
Increases gun accuracy and reduces weapon recoil with all weapon types.
+4% gun accuracy, -2% weapon recoil per point invested
What Doesn’t Kill Me... – Triggerman, 1 point skill
When your shields depletes, next shot fired will cause bonus damage. This ability has a cooldown.
+100% gun damage.
Cooldown: 20 seconds.
Lucky Shot – Triggerman, 5 points skill
Killing an enemy with a critihal hit adds to your currently equiped weapon a chance not to consume ammo for short time.
+10% chance per point invested
Low Versus Large Caliber – Triggerman's capstone, 1 point skill
Killing an enemy with a weapon grants you a stack of either Low or Large Caliber. Kills made with pistols, SMGs or assault rifles proc Low Caliber stacks, while kills made with shotguns, sniper rifles or rocket launchers proc Large Caliber stacks. Each weapon type gets a bonus depending on the number of Low or Large Caliber stacks. Stacks are lost upon swapping between Low and Large caliber weaponry as well upon your death. Max stack amount: 100.
+5% gun damage, + 2% fire rate per Low Caliber stack
+5% gun accuracy, + 2% reload speed per Large Caliber stack
this list will get updated with next ideas in the future
submitted by neuromancer_pl to Borderlands